Wednesday Links and Open Thread

106 thoughts on “Wednesday Links and Open Thread”

  1. So the Tantaros camp’s strategy is to win the war on social media so that Fox settles for a bigger number than what they were offering before the lawsuit was filed?
    If they know they can’t win the case in court, then they will start to air out dirty laundry and threaten to continue to do so until a larger settlement is reached that will include a non-disclosure agreement that precludes Tantaros from revealing more details (truthful or otherwise)?

  2. Post-Ailes speculation drives me crazy. It smacks of wishful thinking. They want Fox News to become another one of them, no longer become a safe haven for the right, and fall out of first place.

    • Oh, yeah. Ailes is out, but they aren’t going to be casual observers of a changing of the guard where the network still trounces them because it’s popular with hokey Joe Blows.

      They want to be the Ring Masters holding the hoops FNC must jump through.

    • I worked for a Fortune 500 Company for nearly four decades. One thing I learned as an absolute truth: new management always makes changes. Sometimes they praise prior management, sometimes bad-mouth it, but always make changes. Need to justify their worth and self worth, cement loyalty, make their mark. Sometimes for the better (Steve Jobs returns to Apple), sometimes for the worse (Steve Jobs fired from Apple), but change always. The best we fans of FOX have going for us: Rupert Murdoch. Good health to you, sir.

      • your statement: re: always change is true in just about every human situation. new boyfriend, new school, new sport team, etc. i think it is fair to say part of humanness is to change things you newly enter to reflect yourself in both effecting change and ensuring you are result responsible and seen that way. good, bad or mixed

  3. Mr. Concha with a continuing truth: the only minority group that can’t use their status as a shield in a controversy: old white guys. Crap, that’s me. Get off my lawn!

  4. My son, a Stossel-like conservative libertarian, just posted this little tidbit on Facebook. It resonated with me. How about you?

    “According to Amy Mitchell, director of journalism research at Pew Research Center, about 20 percent of voters now hold political beliefs that place them at the ideological poles of their respective parties.

    A number that doubled from 2004 to 2014. And these people tend to reinforce one another’s views. “Those on the ends of the political spectrum are more likely to surround themselves with people that think like they do,” Ms. Mitchell said.” — NYT

    • So what has changed between then and now to cause this?
      a) Obama
      b) Recession
      c) GWB’s wars
      d) Death of Fred Rogers
      e) Twitter
      f) your choice ____________________

      • Not sure it would make it as a bumper sticker (too long), but I am going to go with…
        “The more I feel my happiness and my way of living is under assault, the more I shrink my circle of influence.”

        Which begs the question, “Where is that cop out Mr. Rogers now that he is so badly needed to soothe our psyches and put a smile on our faces?”

    • your son did not point out the obvious? since FDR the government has grown and now permeates every aspect of everyone’s life. new born babies get unannounced social worker visits to see if help is needed. 20% love having their diaper changed, 20% recognize government as an unnecessary evil and threat to life and liberty, 60% are Protozoan and just float along in the gutter. seems about right.

      • So what you wrote explains the report’s premise and conclusion since 2004 — not 1944?

        “Those on the ends of the political spectrum are more likely to surround themselves with people that think like they do.”

        Sorry GC, that makes no sense.

        • i did not say that or even refer to it..
          i am surrounded by liberals and Protozoans, not a person like me i know of here. i simply was pointing out that the polar 20% conflict and the rest go along to get along explains your son’s reasoning. he is correct in that. i would not speak about who people associate with because i do not know. that we teach each other to be freedom lovers or stinking animal farmers is not something i commented on or would even propose as truthful. which comes first the corner or the amen is a study i have not seen.
          however the increase of polarization correlates to expanding state control. that is the point. that is clearly the case.

          • Okay. I think I follow you.

            One other aspect that some may consider odd or counter intuitive.

            These voters at polar opposites (or extremes) — Bernie & Trump supporters — not only surround themselves with like-minded thinkers, but they also share a number of political views like opposing free trade.

          • Trump is a Protozoa, he shares both extremes simultaneously, whatever sounds good for the moment. the opposite of Bernie is not Trump. Nor do Trumpettes form the tea party 20%.

          • I was a pre-med major my first few years.

            I’m afraid protozoa means something totally different to me. 🙂

          • you would need to know what replicated Mr. T would you not? i ain’t Mr. science, i will leave that to you and MT.

          • Now your unknowingly bringing up a shortcoming from my school days. All three of my (younger) brothers learned enough Latin to serve as alter boys for the Latin Mass. I lucked out and always got to sleep in on Sunday mornings.

          • Or went to work for VW. Been worthless to me. If I could have a do-over, I’d spend the three years taking Spanish.

          • surprised you were not pushed into intelligence. Americans that can learn to read, right, and speak 6 to 8 languages are pretty rare. unlike Iranians, or Indians, or Chinese, or northern Europe where it is very common.

          • disculpe. ceria. joshing. i think i read so much military stuff because i did not serve, lost a cousin who was Colin Powels best friend while i was growing my hair long saying stupid stuff in the street.

          • Some just seem to have that talent and some don’t. My partner’s son’s wife speaks English, Spanish, French and Armenian fluently. Their two boys were raised by Spanish speaking nannies have that as a second language. The dad has tried and totally failed. On family trips to Argentina, he is the dummy. HIs youngest boy went as translator on a business trip to Nicaragua in July.

          • almost every word 2 syllables or longer in English has a Latin and or Greek root. only the most base words in English are derived from Germanic or Celtic. German and Attic Greek do have one thing in common. both languages have cased verbs, their tense determined by placement in use not an ending or entire other form. Spanish is the insane asylum for crazy verbs.

          • I could spell perfectly in German. Rules were rules — pretty much. English, awful. Never was a memorization whiz. Bad thing about German: had to wait till the end of the sentence to get the damn verb.

          • My son-in-law, born and raised in Germany, spoke very good English as does his brother. It was a required subject in their school system.

            I never learned it, although my parents spoke a little and my grandmother who lived with us was fluent in German.

          • My first year teacher from Texas — not so good. Teacher the next two years was from Germany — very good. In the third year the class was conducted entirely in German. We made a field trip to a Chicago German Restaurant and movie house. After high school, I had no opportunity to reinforce and, as I came to understand in school and in work, new knowledge forces old knowledge out. At least for me.

          • going to the German verb is like James Brown going to the bridge. you do nothing until the 4th time, then they all go to the bridge in unison. danged hard.

          • you know i really just noticed the Nica preamble to your above statement. 1. my Nica pool diggers know more about their history than most Americans know about theirs. 2. so do i, and the team leader is a Komite organizer, yep, just like they have in Cuba, “watchers”, and claimed to have taken part in the contra war, not the civil war. there were 3 counting Sandino booting the Marines in 1912, then the revolution then the contra war in the 80’s. 3. so as he preached to the crew and they all dug and passed buckets as i corrected the mythological parts, filled in some missing parts. they are not used to gringos that know who william walker was, or the filibusters or the 2nd battle of Rivas that put the filibusters down though fought here was won by ticos that had marched from San Jose. the hero Juan Santamaria was tico. pisses em off. 4. contrary to popular myth, Guanacoste voted to join Costa Rica and was never part of Nicaragua although more than half the people there are majority blood Nica. 5. ok, so objectivity, or Objectivism is unorthodox, but all collectivism, they call solidarity, is still forced so that is where i stand on the rule of law vs law and order business. screw bad laws. they should be shunned. 6. explaining that i agree with Ortega, the USA is not capitalist, it is neo-liberal crony capitalism and it is dying opened their minds wide because, but we have a dicho here i use a lot. just because one pig smells like garbage does not mean the other wears perfume. the USA is still one one of the least stinky places on the planet, but the whole planet is smelling worse everyday as individual liberty, property and family rights are diminished daily everywhere. this election is just sugar on top of that. i would feel dirty voting for either candidate.

    • I think 2005, would be turning point year when the Iraq war popularity the Reps lost control of congress in 2006 and I think things started getting more polarized year by year by then. Moderates being pushed of congress on both sides also helped usher that. I think most people are moderate in nature or don’t fit into one box, so it does make sense as parties move to extreme position people don’t tend to fit in that box don’t feel in. Alot of people will join their crowd because it’s more comfortable to be around , like being a Yankees fan in New York with other Yankees fans feels more comfortable than being a Yankees fan around Red Sox fans.

  5. Watch Shep at his worst today interviewing the AP reporter who broke the Clinton access report yesterday. He kept prodding her to offer analysis that would soften the blow on Hillary and she doggedly stayed the profession: We sued the State Dept to get calendar info of who got access to Clinton and I reported what we found. (I report, you decide). You go, girl!

    • I had read a report awhile back that HRC’s calendar was less than meticulous.

      Evidently, she had a lot of meetings that were never entered on the schedule.

  6. TVNEWSER “Judgement day is upon us!”

    “It doesn’t matter who you are—a journalist, a politician or a voter—we’ll all be judged by how we responded to Donald Trump,” Jorge Ramos writes in Time. “Like it or not, this election is a plebiscite on the most divisive, polarizing and disrupting figure in American politics in decades. And neutrality is not an option.”

    No sir. Can’t be a reporter and just report.

  7. Today’s most popular links:
    5 leaving FNC
    4 totally false
    3 stiffs Megyn
    2 sincere legal filing
    And the most popular link in today’s links…
    1 Inside Fox News post-ailed: changes may be coming after the election.

  8. Yesterday I commented, “Not a CNN hater, but the panel segments on so many shows has to be wearing thin with the audience. If an insatiable political junkie like me is getting bored with it, what about the rest of the audience?”

    Then today I noticed Johnny posted, “Tuesday’s numbers: Sean Hannity-Bill O’Reilly-Megyn Kelly 1-2-3.”

    A closer look shows CNN lost to lowly MSNBC in the demo ratings for all four 1-hour shows beginning with 7 pm Eastern. Hmmm.

    There’s also this from Joe Concha yesterday.
    “MSNBC tops CNN for third straight week in August”

    • I will say the Olympics helped MSNBC most of this month, but the election onslaught I am surprised hasn’t made viewers turn of But CNN having massive panels like showing off how many people they hired has gotta be tedious and boring.

      • Not only are the panels too big (maybe they should have a few to discuss one topic and then bring on others to discuss the next topic) but for the past few weeks has been relentless Trump bashing. I’m no fan of Trump but their criticism of him has been relentless. Erin Burnett and Don Lemon have been the worst offenders.

        • Don Lemon is a blithering idiot. Remember his “curious” theories about the missing airliner? That was lunacy straight out of the Fart Smell Art Bell playbook. Next up – chemtrails….

  9. Anyone remember those rumors when Fox was arranging for Ailes’ departure in regards to O’Reilly and Kelly and others having clauses in their contract that gave them an out to follow Ailes out the door? Well so far there has been a steady departure but not the hosts who were rumored to be Ailes loyalists……so far it’s been all female hosts.

  10. Re: Concha: Sanjay Gupta hints at Trump heart disease
    There are pros and cons at work here.

    If his father lived to be 93 and his mother to 88 and he’s on low dosage statins, this suggests his prognosis for the long term may be good and he’s also got his cholesterol under control. He also never smoked and does not drink alcohol.

    But we don’t know what condition his heart is in. For example, how’s his blood pressure and when was his last EKG, chest X-ray, echocardiogram and stress test. There are also certain blood samples you can take to diagnose certain looming heart issues. (I know this because Veterans Affairs just put me through a six week battery of tests after I complained of chest pain. Fortunately, nothing abnormal was found.)

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